Sam interviews Jennifer Berkshire & Jack Schneider of the Have You Heard podcast about their book,  A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door: The Dismantling of Public Education and the Future of School.” Jack begins by giving a brief history on the origins of the anti-public education movement in Bary Goldwater’s 1964 presidential campaign, as a response, in part, to the civil rights movement. Jennifer explains how the right has already begun laying the groundwork for the total privatization of education through advocating for “funding students, not systems,” in which parents are given vouchers to decide how they want to educate their children. Then, they discuss how the Democratic Party has also contributed to the disintegration of public schools through commodifying education by placing more importance on standardized testing and introducing charter schools. Jennifer and Jack make the point that as important as the public education system is, it is not the solution to poverty that billionaires such as Bill Gates claim it is. This leaves the question, what is the goal of our public education system and how can we protect it from those trying to dismantle it?

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