Sam and Emma are then joined by The Nation’s national affairs correspondent Jeet Heer to break down the implications of Trump’s chaotic tariff policy, which is accelerating de-dollarization, including among the U.S.’s most (normally) steadfast allies. They also break down the warped logic of Trump’s immigration crackdown, including the weaponization of the immigration system for the sake of Israel. Jeet makes the point that both Democrats and Republicans have participated in the weaponization of faux concerns about antisemitism which has brought us to this moment. Jeet also gives his opinion of the much-discussed Abundance Agenda.

Check out Jeet’s writing here: https://www.thenation.com/authors/jeet-heer/

In the fun half, Sam and Emma react to billionaire Chamath Palihapitiya complaining that Democrats never gave him access to the Oval Office despite the fact that he donated millions of dollars to their campaigns. They also take in Jesse Waters’ breakdown of Trump’s bizarre cabinet meeting, an all-star sycophantic ceremony with highlights from Elon Musk, RFK Jr. Pam Bondi & Pete Hegseth, each one trying to out-headline the other.