Emma hosts, Beatrice Adler-Bolton, co-host of the Death Panel podcast, to discuss her recent book Health Communism, co-authored with Artie Vierkant. First, Emma runs through updates on the US defense budget, the freight rail contract vote heading to the Senate, DC announcing a shift to free bus transport, South Africa facing its first presidential impeachment, and why progressives would ever force a contract on workers, before diving deeper into the far right’s unsurprising push against freight railers. Then Beatrice Adler-Bolton joins as she dives right into using the recent bargaining between freight railers and the regional monopolies they work for to paint a picture of how health and healthcare are used in the US – with even the existence of sick days being employed as a benefit or commodity, forcing workers’ health to fit in with the needs and desires of corporations and the private insurance agencies they work with. Zooming out, Emma and Beatrice then tackle the importance of understanding the value of health finance reform, while understanding that a much larger change is necessary to truly detach health from its hyper-individualized and commodified treatment under capitalism, with policies like Medicare for All certainly providing material benefits, but not actually changing how we relate to central resources like space and education. Next, Adler-Bolton dives into why health and health care are capitalism’s main vulnerability, particularly in its refusal to acknowledge and address greater systemic issues that affect us as a society rather than individuals, and its insistence on manufacturing scarcity, two qualities that don’t mix well with public health, exploring how even in the societies we recognize for their socialized healthcare (Scandinavia, England, etc), their commitment to capitalism actively undermines the power of this care. Wrapping up the interview, they explore the necessity of solidarity and an intersectional perspective in actually addressing public health issues beyond an isolated individual.

And in the Fun Half: Emma is joined by Brandon Sutton and Matt Binder as they dive into Binder’s recent crusade against the right-wing “Okay Groomer” brigade that somehow keeps being connected to groomers themselves, Sam Bankman-Fried’s recent (accidental) reveal that he’s one of the biggest GOP donors in secret, and Alex Jones’ meeting with Kanye and Nick Fuentes. Nick from Pittsburgh dives into SpaceX and the privatization of the final frontier, Tucker Carlson sees black people thinking about hockey as anti-white, and Marty from Houston explores trans allyship. These Long Wars from Pakistan discusses the impact of MR’s news coverage on the international level, Charlie Kirk discusses why everyday Americans need to buy Twitter, plus, your calls and IMs!

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