Sam and Emma host HuffPost journalist Jonathan Cohn on his new book The Ten Year War: Obamacare and the Unfinished Crusade for Universal Coverage on the last decade of healthcare debate in America and what lies ahead.

Sam, Emma, and Jonathan begin their conversation discussing the failures of the Clinton healthcare bill from the first Clinton administration and what was learned from its failures. Cohn traces how healthcare expansion and legislation moved through the Democratic leadership and through the 2008 primary and subsequent legislative committees before becoming the PPACA at the beginning of Obama’s first term. The interview concludes with Cohn giving his assessment on

And in the Fun Half: a game of chicken within the Democratic leadership, Jon from San Antonio challenges Sam on independent voters, holding Joe Biden accountable for not holding MBS accountable, CPAC conservatives are done with Fox News, conservatism is pure spectacle, everything is downstream from cancel culture, plus your calls and IMs!

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