Sam Seder explains, why republican “moderate” Devin Nunes is a coward, why the “Hastart Rule” is not a real rule, debated a former Libertarian presidential candidate on what society is, the real problem with the government shutdown, why Republican governors refusing Medicade has left millions of poor Americans without health insurance, all the ways the shutdown will hurt the poor, the danger of a reemerging “Grand Bargain.”

On The Better Half: how President Obama let this happen, Random Rush, Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell talk strategy on a hot mic and sound like annoying high school debaters and your calls and IMs.

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