Episode

8/3 It’s Time to Tell a New Story About Coronavirus w/ Sonia Shah

August 3, 2020

Sam hosts investigative journalist Sonia Shah (@soniashah) to talk about her prescient book Pandemic: Tracking Contagions, from Cholera to Ebola and Beyond and her new cover story in the Nation, “It’s Time to Tell a New Story About Coronavirus—Our Lives Depend on It.”

On today’s show: Mnuchin says Trump is “incredibly involved” in stimulus negotiations, reporter points out Trump has been golfing.

Sam hosts investigative journalist Sonia Shah (@soniashah) to talk about her prescient book Pandemic: Tracking Contagions, from Cholera to Ebola and Beyond and her new cover story in the Nation, “It’s Time to Tell a New Story About Coronavirus—Our Lives Depend on It.” The idea of Covid as a foreign pathogen that can be defeated with a single magic bullet and other damaging myths Americans believe. The kinds of policy and behavior changes that would help get the virus under control, and how politics are getting in the way. Possibilities for how the current pandemic could end and how it could continue indefinitely. What we can learn from other pandemics like HIV and cholera.

On the fun half: Dr. Deborah Birx says we’re in a new phase of pandemic that is widespread and affecting all parts of America. Sen. Mike Lee says Americans have been conditioned to trust the government and people should push back on that. Steve Hilton says only vulnerable populations should wear masks, not all of us, Charlie Kirk agrees. Judge Jeanine Pirro says masks dehumanize, they’re a tactic of anarchists. Teacher Lauren calls in with a grim update on school reopenings. Texas Congressman Chip Roy says Democrats won’t compromise, small businesses are going under because of $600 UI, criticizes NBA stars who won’t highlight black businesses closing. Joe Concha (The Hill media reporter) on Fox and Friends says Dems want to cancel presidential debates, compares it to cancel culture. Wallace asks Trump campaign advisor why Trump appointee is compromising USPS. Bill Clinton thanks James Clyburn for stopping the Sanders campaign in South Carolina. Fox and Friends say Bernie is moving Biden left, struggle to make a case against Biden. Plus, your calls and IMs.

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