Good morning, this Thursday is another Sam/Michael hybrid episode. Today’s show features an interview Sam recorded with Iowa University Law Professor Sarah Seo about her latest book, Policing the Open Road: How Cars Transformed American Freedom. Sam and Seo discuss how the rise of personal automotive transportation led Americans to expect and accept a seemingly ever-growing police state in America. Michael will host the Fun Half. We’re live at noon EST.

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