Harvey J Kaye (@harveyjkaye), Professor of Democracy at the University of Wisconsin Green Bay and author of Take Hold of Our History: Make America Radical Again, joins us.

The distinction between FDR-brand liberalism and socialist democracy. The role of liberty in FDR’s liberalism. The importance of public goods, and moving expenditures from private market to the public sector. Bernie’s democratic socialism as distinct from FDR liberalism and Bernie’s appeal to the...